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		<title>By: wackyU</title>
		<link>http://shenyuepop.com/2008/06/09/behind-the-scene-at-the-2008-dream-concert/comment-page-10/#comment-138709</link>
		<dc:creator>wackyU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@.@ I did not say that they are talentless. Even though I&#039;m not a fan, I agree SOME of the members actually have talent (like taeyeon, she can sing! but sometimes she screws up. i don&#039;t know why, but i know she has the voice). but some others obviously can&#039;t sing/dance/be a good role model. 

and also since you&#039;ve brought up the talenteless topic, being talentless isn&#039;t wrong. but we&#039;re talking about kpop here. people aren&#039;t just talking about looks alone anymore. people emphasizes alot about talent (otherwise, why would some pretty faces group just CAN&#039;T make a big name for themselves?). 

k, that&#039;s all i have for now. sorry for not writing in proper english caps and all cos i&#039;m rushing for time now. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@.@ I did not say that they are talentless. Even though I&#8217;m not a fan, I agree SOME of the members actually have talent (like taeyeon, she can sing! but sometimes she screws up. i don&#8217;t know why, but i know she has the voice). but some others obviously can&#8217;t sing/dance/be a good role model. </p>
<p>and also since you&#8217;ve brought up the talenteless topic, being talentless isn&#8217;t wrong. but we&#8217;re talking about kpop here. people aren&#8217;t just talking about looks alone anymore. people emphasizes alot about talent (otherwise, why would some pretty faces group just CAN&#8217;T make a big name for themselves?). </p>
<p>k, that&#8217;s all i have for now. sorry for not writing in proper english caps and all cos i&#8217;m rushing for time now. <img src='http://shenyuepop.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: wow</title>
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		<dc:creator>wow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was looking through the comments when I happened upon WackyU&#039;s comment about SNSD&#039;s wrongdoings. One of them was being &quot;talentless&quot;. My first thought was &quot;What? Being &#039;talentless&#039; is a wrong?&quot; Does that mean that I am wrong, only because I am &quot;talentless&quot;? May you please explain your reasoning WackyU? Then, I would like to reply to Maruuu&#039;s comment about how consumers can say whatever they want. Sure, that may be true, but it&#039;s common courtesy to applaud for the entertainers in a concert. It doesn&#039;t matter if you like them or not, as long as you are polite. Obviously, something is wrong with these fans of SNSD, not necessarily because of SNSD&#039;s actions, but maybe because of hormones. Has anyone ever thought of that? Maybe these teenage boys/young adult men think it&#039;s right if they try to overly support SNSD, that way they can gain favor. That&#039;s all I got for now. Please respond, I would like to see both sides of the issue (when it pertains to this topic).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was looking through the comments when I happened upon WackyU&#8217;s comment about SNSD&#8217;s wrongdoings. One of them was being &#8220;talentless&#8221;. My first thought was &#8220;What? Being &#8216;talentless&#8217; is a wrong?&#8221; Does that mean that I am wrong, only because I am &#8220;talentless&#8221;? May you please explain your reasoning WackyU? Then, I would like to reply to Maruuu&#8217;s comment about how consumers can say whatever they want. Sure, that may be true, but it&#8217;s common courtesy to applaud for the entertainers in a concert. It doesn&#8217;t matter if you like them or not, as long as you are polite. Obviously, something is wrong with these fans of SNSD, not necessarily because of SNSD&#8217;s actions, but maybe because of hormones. Has anyone ever thought of that? Maybe these teenage boys/young adult men think it&#8217;s right if they try to overly support SNSD, that way they can gain favor. That&#8217;s all I got for now. Please respond, I would like to see both sides of the issue (when it pertains to this topic).</p>
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		<title>By: OHEMGEE~</title>
		<link>http://shenyuepop.com/2008/06/09/behind-the-scene-at-the-2008-dream-concert/comment-page-10/#comment-132752</link>
		<dc:creator>OHEMGEE~</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 10:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It`s not 소녀시대`s fault.:-&lt; Don`t blame them. Although I am a fan of 소녀시대, I have to admit that what the male fans did was horrible. But 소녀시대 had nothing to do wih it. Stop blaming them for other people`s reasons.  :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It`s not 소녀시대`s fault.:-&lt; Don`t blame them. Although I am a fan of 소녀시대, I have to admit that what the male fans did was horrible. But 소녀시대 had nothing to do wih it. Stop blaming them for other people`s reasons.  <img src='http://shenyuepop.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: iDontGiveADamn</title>
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		<dc:creator>iDontGiveADamn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 06:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMO, i don&#039;t like SNSD that much..i think [and i always will].. that they&#039;re just a bunch of pretty faces with bad attitudes.. they don&#039;t even have respect for others.. especially, that Tiffany girl..

FOR SNSD FANS: please, just please.. be open-minded.. there are people who likes and who doesn&#039;t like SNSD.. it&#039;s not like.. everyone should like them just because YOU think they&#039;re good and you like them.. accept that fact please.. stop dissing people if they&#039;re gonna say that they don&#039;t like them..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMO, i don&#8217;t like SNSD that much..i think [and i always will].. that they&#8217;re just a bunch of pretty faces with bad attitudes.. they don&#8217;t even have respect for others.. especially, that Tiffany girl..</p>
<p>FOR SNSD FANS: please, just please.. be open-minded.. there are people who likes and who doesn&#8217;t like SNSD.. it&#8217;s not like.. everyone should like them just because YOU think they&#8217;re good and you like them.. accept that fact please.. stop dissing people if they&#8217;re gonna say that they don&#8217;t like them..</p>
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		<title>By: GenomeSoldier83</title>
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		<dc:creator>GenomeSoldier83</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 07:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet again the Imperialist Pigs spread their lies throughout the internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet again the Imperialist Pigs spread their lies throughout the internet.</p>
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		<title>By: yeye</title>
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		<dc:creator>yeye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 05:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi, super juniors,
       hi, kim ki bum you are the best ever 
     for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi, super juniors,<br />
       hi, kim ki bum you are the best ever<br />
     for me.</p>
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		<title>By: wackyU</title>
		<link>http://shenyuepop.com/2008/06/09/behind-the-scene-at-the-2008-dream-concert/comment-page-10/#comment-129880</link>
		<dc:creator>wackyU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 12:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What kind of idols breed what kind of fanbase. (I&#039;m not saying SNSD goes around raping, stabbing and swearing at people..but you do get the point)

So many people are saying &#039;It&#039;s not SNSD&#039;s fault. It&#039;s the fans&#039; fault because THEY are the ones who went around doing harm to the others. It has nothing to do with SNSD at all.&#039;

Do you guys think &#039;It&#039;s not SNSD&#039;s fault&#039; alone suffice to defend the 9 girls?

Think again.

Have you guys ever thought of, 

WHY is it only SNSD fans who goes around harming others during the concert. 

WHY is it only SNSD fans who have a bad reputation of being rude and unreasonable? 

WHY is it only SNSD fans who are accused of being perverts by taking pictures of beneath SNSD&#039;s skirts and all kinds of negative stuffs?

SNSD themselves did not even apologize on behalf of their fans for what happened at the DC08! Instead, the ones who paved their road to fame for them (In case you still don&#039;t get the hint, its Super Junior and DBSK) had to rectify the mistakes and apologize to the fans whom were hurt.

And please, SNSD themselves have their wrongdoings as well (though definitely not as serious as going around stabbing others). Disrespect, talent-less (majority of the 9), stupidness and all have again and again been proven and shown as evidence. Fans just like SNSD because:

1. They are pretty. (I mean, who doesn&#039;t like beautiful people, right? If they haven&#039;t been doing all these stupid things, I&#039;d long ago been a total hardcore fan of them.)

2. They have so-called-by-fans &#039;nice, cute and innocent&#039; personalities. (People, you shouldn&#039;t trust everything you see on every single show. They may be scripted. They&#039;ve done many things that have shown their disrespect and rudeness. Why are you then, believing only the things you like to see and not what you hate to? P.S: However I feel that 1 to 3 of SNSD members have pretty decent personalities.)

3. They have &#039;awesome, addictive number 1 hit songs&#039; like Gee. But like seriously, its not as if the girls wrote, composed and done everything by themselves. The songwriters and composers are the ones who also deserve the credit for snagging the number 1 on charts! I&#039;m saying this only because I feel Gee sounds overly artifical. Like really, don&#039;t tell me you haven&#039;t noticed all of their 9 voices sound the same, overly squeaky and cute. And their latest song, Tell Me Your Wish. Now all of them have extremely sexy and deep voices in contrast to Gee? Now, take their Tell Me Your Wish studio recording audio and compare it with live performances. What do you get? From the live performances, you get weak, strained and cracky vocals instead of the oh-so-smexy vocals from the studio version.

And what do fans say?

Taeyeon must be tired no wonder she sounds so tired in this performance.
Yoona made a mistake but a cute one!!

and etc etc. You get my point.

I&#039;m sure Gee will sound as good, or even BETTER if it had the chance to be given to other girlbands to perform. (Since SNSD&#039;s version have been already editted so much, the song has no meaning anymore.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What kind of idols breed what kind of fanbase. (I&#8217;m not saying SNSD goes around raping, stabbing and swearing at people..but you do get the point)</p>
<p>So many people are saying &#8216;It&#8217;s not SNSD&#8217;s fault. It&#8217;s the fans&#8217; fault because THEY are the ones who went around doing harm to the others. It has nothing to do with SNSD at all.&#8217;</p>
<p>Do you guys think &#8216;It&#8217;s not SNSD&#8217;s fault&#8217; alone suffice to defend the 9 girls?</p>
<p>Think again.</p>
<p>Have you guys ever thought of, </p>
<p>WHY is it only SNSD fans who goes around harming others during the concert. </p>
<p>WHY is it only SNSD fans who have a bad reputation of being rude and unreasonable? </p>
<p>WHY is it only SNSD fans who are accused of being perverts by taking pictures of beneath SNSD&#8217;s skirts and all kinds of negative stuffs?</p>
<p>SNSD themselves did not even apologize on behalf of their fans for what happened at the DC08! Instead, the ones who paved their road to fame for them (In case you still don&#8217;t get the hint, its Super Junior and DBSK) had to rectify the mistakes and apologize to the fans whom were hurt.</p>
<p>And please, SNSD themselves have their wrongdoings as well (though definitely not as serious as going around stabbing others). Disrespect, talent-less (majority of the 9), stupidness and all have again and again been proven and shown as evidence. Fans just like SNSD because:</p>
<p>1. They are pretty. (I mean, who doesn&#8217;t like beautiful people, right? If they haven&#8217;t been doing all these stupid things, I&#8217;d long ago been a total hardcore fan of them.)</p>
<p>2. They have so-called-by-fans &#8216;nice, cute and innocent&#8217; personalities. (People, you shouldn&#8217;t trust everything you see on every single show. They may be scripted. They&#8217;ve done many things that have shown their disrespect and rudeness. Why are you then, believing only the things you like to see and not what you hate to? P.S: However I feel that 1 to 3 of SNSD members have pretty decent personalities.)</p>
<p>3. They have &#8216;awesome, addictive number 1 hit songs&#8217; like Gee. But like seriously, its not as if the girls wrote, composed and done everything by themselves. The songwriters and composers are the ones who also deserve the credit for snagging the number 1 on charts! I&#8217;m saying this only because I feel Gee sounds overly artifical. Like really, don&#8217;t tell me you haven&#8217;t noticed all of their 9 voices sound the same, overly squeaky and cute. And their latest song, Tell Me Your Wish. Now all of them have extremely sexy and deep voices in contrast to Gee? Now, take their Tell Me Your Wish studio recording audio and compare it with live performances. What do you get? From the live performances, you get weak, strained and cracky vocals instead of the oh-so-smexy vocals from the studio version.</p>
<p>And what do fans say?</p>
<p>Taeyeon must be tired no wonder she sounds so tired in this performance.<br />
Yoona made a mistake but a cute one!!</p>
<p>and etc etc. You get my point.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure Gee will sound as good, or even BETTER if it had the chance to be given to other girlbands to perform. (Since SNSD&#8217;s version have been already editted so much, the song has no meaning anymore.)</p>
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		<title>By: GROWUP.</title>
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		<dc:creator>GROWUP.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 06:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OH PLEASE. As you all said, evidence is here for people to see, and now everybody hates snsd? Please read the article again if you do not understand. THE FANS ARE DOING IT, NOT SNSD THEMSELVES. SNSD themselves did not ask their fans to do all those stuff. The fans did them voluntarily. Just because snsd are on good terms with the other groups doesn&#039;t mean that they are seducing them or whatever sort. Why are there so much anti fans? Its because the antis themselves are fans of the other groups. They don&#039;t like snsd because they feel that snsd are &#039;stealing&#039; their favourite groups away from them.

Grow up! I myself is a fan of all k-pop groups like snsd, wonder girls, big bang, suju, 2pm etc. I have all their songs, i don&#039;t hate on any of them.
I agree that the soshi fans overdid it but what can snsd do about it? they are up stage, performing for everyone. There is nothing that snsd can do to stop it. Did you expect them to stop their performance halfway and scold the soshi fans through their mic? 
So to all antis, what you see is what the fans are doing, not snsd. So please stop commenting on them and call them names. go ahead and call the soshi fans whatever names you want, i don&#039;t care. 
But none of the kpop groups should be affected in anyway. Also i&#039;m tired of listening to how people complain that snsd dress so skimpily in live performances.
Geez, before you comment on them, go take a look at american artists that dress just in bra and panty. Snsd&#039;s theme for them is mostly the &#039;cute&#039; theme which i think suits them a lot since they are so young and pretty. Compared to Madonna who is in her 50s and wear clothes like a prostiture.

Get a life, antis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OH PLEASE. As you all said, evidence is here for people to see, and now everybody hates snsd? Please read the article again if you do not understand. THE FANS ARE DOING IT, NOT SNSD THEMSELVES. SNSD themselves did not ask their fans to do all those stuff. The fans did them voluntarily. Just because snsd are on good terms with the other groups doesn&#8217;t mean that they are seducing them or whatever sort. Why are there so much anti fans? Its because the antis themselves are fans of the other groups. They don&#8217;t like snsd because they feel that snsd are &#8217;stealing&#8217; their favourite groups away from them.</p>
<p>Grow up! I myself is a fan of all k-pop groups like snsd, wonder girls, big bang, suju, 2pm etc. I have all their songs, i don&#8217;t hate on any of them.<br />
I agree that the soshi fans overdid it but what can snsd do about it? they are up stage, performing for everyone. There is nothing that snsd can do to stop it. Did you expect them to stop their performance halfway and scold the soshi fans through their mic?<br />
So to all antis, what you see is what the fans are doing, not snsd. So please stop commenting on them and call them names. go ahead and call the soshi fans whatever names you want, i don&#8217;t care.<br />
But none of the kpop groups should be affected in anyway. Also i&#8217;m tired of listening to how people complain that snsd dress so skimpily in live performances.<br />
Geez, before you comment on them, go take a look at american artists that dress just in bra and panty. Snsd&#8217;s theme for them is mostly the &#8216;cute&#8217; theme which i think suits them a lot since they are so young and pretty. Compared to Madonna who is in her 50s and wear clothes like a prostiture.</p>
<p>Get a life, antis.</p>
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		<title>By: -sigh-</title>
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		<dc:creator>-sigh-</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 04:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ohmygoodness, as a SNSD fan, I feel appalled that so much damage has been caused by SoShis.  I am so sorry that so many things were taken out of proportion and so many people got hurt.  I understand that SNSD did nothing, but they really have to tell their fans in Korea to chill out.  This is out of control.  What Sungmin did was the right thing, I hope SNSD does it too.  Like a simple message that politely ask their fans to be more gentle and less hostile would be much appreciated and very needed.

I feel terrible for the other fanclubs who were hurt. That&#039;s terrible, but where the hell was security? Like, they should be on close guard after fans came in fighting for good seats and pushing each other off the balcony. 
Oh well, what is done is done. 
I hope this doesn&#039;t happen this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ohmygoodness, as a SNSD fan, I feel appalled that so much damage has been caused by SoShis.  I am so sorry that so many things were taken out of proportion and so many people got hurt.  I understand that SNSD did nothing, but they really have to tell their fans in Korea to chill out.  This is out of control.  What Sungmin did was the right thing, I hope SNSD does it too.  Like a simple message that politely ask their fans to be more gentle and less hostile would be much appreciated and very needed.</p>
<p>I feel terrible for the other fanclubs who were hurt. That&#8217;s terrible, but where the hell was security? Like, they should be on close guard after fans came in fighting for good seats and pushing each other off the balcony.<br />
Oh well, what is done is done.<br />
I hope this doesn&#8217;t happen this year.</p>
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		<title>By: SNSD boycotted at Dream Concert</title>
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		<dc:creator>SNSD boycotted at Dream Concert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] be the nicest girls around, but it&#8217;s unfair for them to be treated like this. Besides, the reasons for the boycott were pretty lame to begin [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] be the nicest girls around, but it&#8217;s unfair for them to be treated like this. Besides, the reasons for the boycott were pretty lame to begin [...]</p>
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