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		<title>By: -Simpletons-</title>
		<link>http://shenyuepop.com/2008/06/11/why-did-it-happen/comment-page-7/#comment-158765</link>
		<dc:creator>-Simpletons-</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To keep in mind... No No No... Actually, I am enjoying this a lot. I am beginning to prove my theory that most humans don&#039;t really use their brains. Perfect arguments. SONEs as well, they start using all kinds of crap words cause they can&#039;t find something to counter. Well, I happen to be an exceptional fan. The person up there mentioned 14 mistakes? Perfect. Perfect beings. SNSD just so happen to be angels in my opinion. No one here have made less than that amount of mistakes. Not to mention that the mistakes we make aren&#039;t for entertainment. When they make fun of others, it might be due to the entertainment purposes? Then why do people hate them? Cause another dude feels offended? I mean sometimes it is all for the fun and joy. And people just feels offended cause they are the ones laughed at. Well, celebrities are humans too right? In Korea, it is true that respect means a lot but we never know how much they have changed. Anyway, I use to waver when I read this kind of things and in the last post I made 10 mins ago? I was still pretty unhappy but that is only because people aren&#039;t using their brains but since then, in this post, I realise I can&#039;t change simpletons cause they don&#039;t use their brains then why do I bother making another person who is maybe a top graduate with masters or degrees or whatever and yet he is not using his brain to think of more possibilities of the actions and consequences faced by the girls or any one. The underlying reason, there is none. All these are shallow reasons. No one knows what really happen. It is entertaining in a way. I am really bored these days and I get to insult simpletons, really lifts my mood. Thanks guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To keep in mind&#8230; No No No&#8230; Actually, I am enjoying this a lot. I am beginning to prove my theory that most humans don&#8217;t really use their brains. Perfect arguments. SONEs as well, they start using all kinds of crap words cause they can&#8217;t find something to counter. Well, I happen to be an exceptional fan. The person up there mentioned 14 mistakes? Perfect. Perfect beings. SNSD just so happen to be angels in my opinion. No one here have made less than that amount of mistakes. Not to mention that the mistakes we make aren&#8217;t for entertainment. When they make fun of others, it might be due to the entertainment purposes? Then why do people hate them? Cause another dude feels offended? I mean sometimes it is all for the fun and joy. And people just feels offended cause they are the ones laughed at. Well, celebrities are humans too right? In Korea, it is true that respect means a lot but we never know how much they have changed. Anyway, I use to waver when I read this kind of things and in the last post I made 10 mins ago? I was still pretty unhappy but that is only because people aren&#8217;t using their brains but since then, in this post, I realise I can&#8217;t change simpletons cause they don&#8217;t use their brains then why do I bother making another person who is maybe a top graduate with masters or degrees or whatever and yet he is not using his brain to think of more possibilities of the actions and consequences faced by the girls or any one. The underlying reason, there is none. All these are shallow reasons. No one knows what really happen. It is entertaining in a way. I am really bored these days and I get to insult simpletons, really lifts my mood. Thanks guys.</p>
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		<title>By: keep in mind</title>
		<link>http://shenyuepop.com/2008/06/11/why-did-it-happen/comment-page-7/#comment-157913</link>
		<dc:creator>keep in mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 22:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>keep in mind that this is an anti-snsd bias site..

many of those accusations were fabricated and in those that were not, SNSD had apologized already way before the concert... some of the reasons given were of course taken out of context, when you really hate someone, you always see the worst..

and the accusations against the sones during the concert like stabbing and rape? NOT even ONE police investigation or media report which is strange if the accusations were true..

in the end, elVES, cassIOS and SSSSSSzzz are the one who showed how rude they are..

besides, to those elves who are hating snsd about SNSD&#039;s immaturity and rude behavior, i wonder what&#039;s your take on kangin&#039;s DUI, shindong&#039;s sexist comments and the groups rude behavior in an award ceremony this year?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>keep in mind that this is an anti-snsd bias site..</p>
<p>many of those accusations were fabricated and in those that were not, SNSD had apologized already way before the concert&#8230; some of the reasons given were of course taken out of context, when you really hate someone, you always see the worst..</p>
<p>and the accusations against the sones during the concert like stabbing and rape? NOT even ONE police investigation or media report which is strange if the accusations were true..</p>
<p>in the end, elVES, cassIOS and SSSSSSzzz are the one who showed how rude they are..</p>
<p>besides, to those elves who are hating snsd about SNSD&#8217;s immaturity and rude behavior, i wonder what&#8217;s your take on kangin&#8217;s DUI, shindong&#8217;s sexist comments and the groups rude behavior in an award ceremony this year?</p>
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		<title>By: dedek</title>
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		<dc:creator>dedek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 13:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WTF tiffany!!!!</description>
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		<title>By: Faeness</title>
		<link>http://shenyuepop.com/2008/06/11/why-did-it-happen/comment-page-7/#comment-147340</link>
		<dc:creator>Faeness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 11:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m both an SNSD and a SuJu fan...and I don&#039;t find anything wrong with either. Rather, I see the SNSD has made much more mistakes than SuJu, but as people have said, they are just human. 

For example, with the aspect where Yoona did not bow low enough. People make physical mistakes all the time because they may be flustered or not thinking. Yoona seems like a girl who doesn&#039;t want trouble and doesn&#039;t mean to cause trouble. Tiffany on the other has HAD some problems that she has cleared up. It&#039;s bad to live in the past, or else our stars and idols cannot move forward.

The real problem are the fans. Fans who are so &quot;die hard&quot; for their idols, they put up stupid shit on other band&#039;s websites. For example, the SNSD fan who went to the Wonder Girls&#039; signing and asked to write “Right now is Girls Generation”. Korea or not, that&#039;s rude and disrespectful on so many levels. 

I can&#039;t help but think of DongHae and Kangin. That comment to Donghae is inexcusable. If the author of this post is correct about Korean etiquette, then it definitely is not something to say about someone&#039;s deceased father. I also don&#039;t understand why Kangin is PUNISHED for DEFENDING Taeyeon. This aspect makes...NO sense to me whatsoever. And how the hell did Leeteuk get into this? If this was a gun fight, he seemed to have got hit by a stray bullet. 

As Z up there has said, why don&#039;t people just say &quot;I like SNSD more than WG&quot; or &quot;I like Big Bang more than SuJu&quot;. It makes a lot of sense then.Don&#039;t get me wrong, I&#039;m no peacekeeper. In fact, I&#039;m the type of advocates punishment to those who need it. But no one is needed to be punished. Instead of showing support for the idols, these types of fans are making it worse for them. 

Honestly, why can&#039;t they just let the stars settle them out themselves instead of saying anything? They are full adults, most (if not all) over 20 years old. You&#039;re so quick to say &#039;oppa! oppa!&#039; and &#039;noona! noona!&#039; but you won&#039;t let &#039;oppa/noona&#039; figure out their own problems.

This behavior is just ridiculous. Reasons for this &quot;war&quot; are so stupid, it makes me wonder if they even have a conscience to stop them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m both an SNSD and a SuJu fan&#8230;and I don&#8217;t find anything wrong with either. Rather, I see the SNSD has made much more mistakes than SuJu, but as people have said, they are just human. </p>
<p>For example, with the aspect where Yoona did not bow low enough. People make physical mistakes all the time because they may be flustered or not thinking. Yoona seems like a girl who doesn&#8217;t want trouble and doesn&#8217;t mean to cause trouble. Tiffany on the other has HAD some problems that she has cleared up. It&#8217;s bad to live in the past, or else our stars and idols cannot move forward.</p>
<p>The real problem are the fans. Fans who are so &#8220;die hard&#8221; for their idols, they put up stupid shit on other band&#8217;s websites. For example, the SNSD fan who went to the Wonder Girls&#8217; signing and asked to write “Right now is Girls Generation”. Korea or not, that&#8217;s rude and disrespectful on so many levels. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t help but think of DongHae and Kangin. That comment to Donghae is inexcusable. If the author of this post is correct about Korean etiquette, then it definitely is not something to say about someone&#8217;s deceased father. I also don&#8217;t understand why Kangin is PUNISHED for DEFENDING Taeyeon. This aspect makes&#8230;NO sense to me whatsoever. And how the hell did Leeteuk get into this? If this was a gun fight, he seemed to have got hit by a stray bullet. </p>
<p>As Z up there has said, why don&#8217;t people just say &#8220;I like SNSD more than WG&#8221; or &#8220;I like Big Bang more than SuJu&#8221;. It makes a lot of sense then.Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I&#8217;m no peacekeeper. In fact, I&#8217;m the type of advocates punishment to those who need it. But no one is needed to be punished. Instead of showing support for the idols, these types of fans are making it worse for them. </p>
<p>Honestly, why can&#8217;t they just let the stars settle them out themselves instead of saying anything? They are full adults, most (if not all) over 20 years old. You&#8217;re so quick to say &#8216;oppa! oppa!&#8217; and &#8216;noona! noona!&#8217; but you won&#8217;t let &#8216;oppa/noona&#8217; figure out their own problems.</p>
<p>This behavior is just ridiculous. Reasons for this &#8220;war&#8221; are so stupid, it makes me wonder if they even have a conscience to stop them.</p>
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		<title>By: queenbqty</title>
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		<dc:creator>queenbqty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@bakkk
Thank you for your well wishes to us &quot;haters&quot; as you call those who don&#039;t like snsd.  Why do you snsd supporters come here anyway, it is obvious that the writers here don&#039;t care for snsd.  Go to Allksnsdpop where they are very, VERY biased toward snsd.  This was a fine article, which simply tries to explain why what happened, happened.

You gave your opinion, now, here&#039;s mine, snsd is rude and disrespectful and you can&#039;t just blame variety show writers.  Why didn&#039;t snsd say something to their fans who behaved badly, because either they love it or they&#039;re too stupid to notice.  

Frankly, snsd can&#039;t sing or dance, they are not sexy or cute (what&#039;s sexy about a bunch of anorexic looking, chicken legged broads jumping around and flashing their panties?).  Most of them are fugly and look like men or just look slow and retarded.  What is there to support, they can&#039;t even lip sync, right.

All sones need intervention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@bakkk<br />
Thank you for your well wishes to us &#8220;haters&#8221; as you call those who don&#8217;t like snsd.  Why do you snsd supporters come here anyway, it is obvious that the writers here don&#8217;t care for snsd.  Go to Allksnsdpop where they are very, VERY biased toward snsd.  This was a fine article, which simply tries to explain why what happened, happened.</p>
<p>You gave your opinion, now, here&#8217;s mine, snsd is rude and disrespectful and you can&#8217;t just blame variety show writers.  Why didn&#8217;t snsd say something to their fans who behaved badly, because either they love it or they&#8217;re too stupid to notice.  </p>
<p>Frankly, snsd can&#8217;t sing or dance, they are not sexy or cute (what&#8217;s sexy about a bunch of anorexic looking, chicken legged broads jumping around and flashing their panties?).  Most of them are fugly and look like men or just look slow and retarded.  What is there to support, they can&#8217;t even lip sync, right.</p>
<p>All sones need intervention.</p>
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		<title>By: bakkk</title>
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		<dc:creator>bakkk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I certainly do not deny that the concert was indeed the fault of the fans, as they did overreact and caused much unneeded commotion and hurt to others. However, is the concert truly SNSD&#039;s fault? In my honest opinion, the fans were the ones who blew it out of proportion, and not SNSD. As for the mistakes that SNSD made, I can only say take variety shows with many pinches of salt, because they are often scripted and 70% of it is probably made up to spice up the program and attract viewers, and making fun of other celebrities is, in a way, part of the fun. Anti-fans are abit too over the top too, in my opinion. And i strongly believe that this article isn&#039;t objective at all, and is very. VERY. biased against SNSD. Well that&#039;s all i got to say :) Happy Hating for people who hate them, and let your faith stay strong to those who support them. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I certainly do not deny that the concert was indeed the fault of the fans, as they did overreact and caused much unneeded commotion and hurt to others. However, is the concert truly SNSD&#8217;s fault? In my honest opinion, the fans were the ones who blew it out of proportion, and not SNSD. As for the mistakes that SNSD made, I can only say take variety shows with many pinches of salt, because they are often scripted and 70% of it is probably made up to spice up the program and attract viewers, and making fun of other celebrities is, in a way, part of the fun. Anti-fans are abit too over the top too, in my opinion. And i strongly believe that this article isn&#8217;t objective at all, and is very. VERY. biased against SNSD. Well that&#8217;s all i got to say <img src='http://shenyuepop.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Happy Hating for people who hate them, and let your faith stay strong to those who support them. <img src='http://shenyuepop.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bristol Dental Implants</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bristol Dental Implants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well…i am actually an snsd fan and a suju fan to me i think that snsd is not the ones at fault here but their fans were the one who were a bit too extreme.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well…i am actually an snsd fan and a suju fan to me i think that snsd is not the ones at fault here but their fans were the one who were a bit too extreme.</p>
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		<title>By: theONE</title>
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		<dc:creator>theONE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 06:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i heard they had plastic surgery?? who among them is all natural?? or there isn&#039;t??

tiffany (whoever she is) made corrections about kim ji suk&#039;s English?? what about their songs having a few english lines which are grammatically wrong?? can&#039;t she correct it?? funny..

c&#039;mon people!! we should look at ourselves first before criticizing others.. better yet, not open our mouth if we have nothing good to say.. and this goes for all of us, the fans, the anti&#039;s, and even for those who don&#039;t care..

to the soshi fans:
dudes!!! are you serious?!?!?!?!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i heard they had plastic surgery?? who among them is all natural?? or there isn&#8217;t??</p>
<p>tiffany (whoever she is) made corrections about kim ji suk&#8217;s English?? what about their songs having a few english lines which are grammatically wrong?? can&#8217;t she correct it?? funny..</p>
<p>c&#8217;mon people!! we should look at ourselves first before criticizing others.. better yet, not open our mouth if we have nothing good to say.. and this goes for all of us, the fans, the anti&#8217;s, and even for those who don&#8217;t care..</p>
<p>to the soshi fans:<br />
dudes!!! are you serious?!?!?!?!?</p>
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		<title>By: ForeverELF</title>
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		<dc:creator>ForeverELF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 18:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a proud E.L.F and I am an anti-fan. SNSD is rude,disrespectful and immature. Insulting other groups and thinking that they are the best. It&#039;s not that I&#039;m biased, but look at all they did. Calling DongHae &quot;the fatherless one&quot;? DongHae treats his father as his bestfriend, now he&#039;s gone DongHae is upset and is sensitive about anything regrading his dad, insulting him like that? Many E.L.Fs are upset over this matter even though they are not antis, it hurts them to see him insulted like that. That is just plain cruel. Calling KangIn a retard? Even after how he protected her must the fans resort to defaming him? I could list and elaborate over all the points but I would not do so. I would like to add that I do listen and see their good points apart from the bad. But sadly the bad outweighs the good. I thank the author of this article for writing said artcle. 
STAND Strong Till All Nine Dissappear
ForeverELF</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a proud E.L.F and I am an anti-fan. SNSD is rude,disrespectful and immature. Insulting other groups and thinking that they are the best. It&#8217;s not that I&#8217;m biased, but look at all they did. Calling DongHae &#8220;the fatherless one&#8221;? DongHae treats his father as his bestfriend, now he&#8217;s gone DongHae is upset and is sensitive about anything regrading his dad, insulting him like that? Many E.L.Fs are upset over this matter even though they are not antis, it hurts them to see him insulted like that. That is just plain cruel. Calling KangIn a retard? Even after how he protected her must the fans resort to defaming him? I could list and elaborate over all the points but I would not do so. I would like to add that I do listen and see their good points apart from the bad. But sadly the bad outweighs the good. I thank the author of this article for writing said artcle.<br />
STAND Strong Till All Nine Dissappear<br />
ForeverELF</p>
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		<title>By: SONE_forever</title>
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		<dc:creator>SONE_forever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lame.

The excuses for &quot;hating&quot; SNSD is kinda lame.

Hiding to eat food? Are you serious?

C&#039;mon, being disrespectful is obviously an important deal in Asian communities, but this is borderline ridiculous, not to mention stupid.

A compilation of petty mistakes does NOT make it SNSD&#039;s &quot;fault&quot; for causing this whole ruckus.

seriously, petty mistakes?

pfft</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lame.</p>
<p>The excuses for &#8220;hating&#8221; SNSD is kinda lame.</p>
<p>Hiding to eat food? Are you serious?</p>
<p>C&#8217;mon, being disrespectful is obviously an important deal in Asian communities, but this is borderline ridiculous, not to mention stupid.</p>
<p>A compilation of petty mistakes does NOT make it SNSD&#8217;s &#8220;fault&#8221; for causing this whole ruckus.</p>
<p>seriously, petty mistakes?</p>
<p>pfft</p>
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