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		<title>By: onetoomany</title>
		<link>http://shenyuepop.com/2009/08/13/what-do-we-have-here/comment-page-1/#comment-152569</link>
		<dc:creator>onetoomany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 18:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>go cassies! although i&#039;m not a TVQX&#039;s fan but i support what the fans are doing. it&#039;s not just something that fans do just because they are too bored or lame. in the first place, SM was the one that brought TVQX to fame, so if SM treated their boys fairly, no one will be so dumb as to start this campaign which will hurt TVQX. and paying for the membership and not getting what was promised is simply ridiculous and their boycotting is reasonable.

those who said that these fans are making a big fuss for nothing, then apparently, they are not one of those fans who paid the membership fees and get nothing promised in return. if SM didn&#039;t promise anything, then fine. but they did but yet time and time again, it was always not fulfilled, causing dissapointment. e.g: you spend $2000 on a gadget but in the end, the gadget is faulty and cranky. would you still want to buy it again? the same theory goes for why the fans are boycotting SM. and they are not only fighting on behalf of TVQX but also all their artists under them.

and if you still think that it&#039;s unreasonable, just take a look at the profit sharing ratio. it&#039;s beyond ridiculous, seriously. does it even make sense to you? imagine you are a artist under SM, for all the hard work you put in, in the end you are exploited. if up to here, you still don&#039;t get my point, then you should go get a checkup. because any one with basic common sense will see the light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>go cassies! although i&#8217;m not a TVQX&#8217;s fan but i support what the fans are doing. it&#8217;s not just something that fans do just because they are too bored or lame. in the first place, SM was the one that brought TVQX to fame, so if SM treated their boys fairly, no one will be so dumb as to start this campaign which will hurt TVQX. and paying for the membership and not getting what was promised is simply ridiculous and their boycotting is reasonable.</p>
<p>those who said that these fans are making a big fuss for nothing, then apparently, they are not one of those fans who paid the membership fees and get nothing promised in return. if SM didn&#8217;t promise anything, then fine. but they did but yet time and time again, it was always not fulfilled, causing dissapointment. e.g: you spend $2000 on a gadget but in the end, the gadget is faulty and cranky. would you still want to buy it again? the same theory goes for why the fans are boycotting SM. and they are not only fighting on behalf of TVQX but also all their artists under them.</p>
<p>and if you still think that it&#8217;s unreasonable, just take a look at the profit sharing ratio. it&#8217;s beyond ridiculous, seriously. does it even make sense to you? imagine you are a artist under SM, for all the hard work you put in, in the end you are exploited. if up to here, you still don&#8217;t get my point, then you should go get a checkup. because any one with basic common sense will see the light.</p>
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		<title>By: Surprised</title>
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		<dc:creator>Surprised</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. A lot of people are dying from poverty and all we have here is a bunch of fans worrying over five physically fit boys who can earn a living even without the spotlight pointed at them.

Tsk. This is so sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. A lot of people are dying from poverty and all we have here is a bunch of fans worrying over five physically fit boys who can earn a living even without the spotlight pointed at them.</p>
<p>Tsk. This is so sad.</p>
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		<title>By: JO</title>
		<link>http://shenyuepop.com/2009/08/13/what-do-we-have-here/comment-page-1/#comment-127440</link>
		<dc:creator>JO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 01:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>woo go cassies</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>woo go cassies</p>
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		<title>By: queenbqty</title>
		<link>http://shenyuepop.com/2009/08/13/what-do-we-have-here/comment-page-1/#comment-127126</link>
		<dc:creator>queenbqty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 01:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You go, Cassie&#039;s, stay strong and don&#039;t let the naysayers get you down.  The best way to effect any kind of major change especially to a lousy company like sm is to hit them in the coin purse.  Talented artists should not be treated like slaves, if not for the talent would sm have any money at all. NO!!!!!!!!!!!!
LSM et al, are nothing more than pimps, getting rich off someone elses effort, shut &#039;em down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You go, Cassie&#8217;s, stay strong and don&#8217;t let the naysayers get you down.  The best way to effect any kind of major change especially to a lousy company like sm is to hit them in the coin purse.  Talented artists should not be treated like slaves, if not for the talent would sm have any money at all. NO!!!!!!!!!!!!<br />
LSM et al, are nothing more than pimps, getting rich off someone elses effort, shut &#8216;em down.</p>
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		<title>By: SHG</title>
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		<dc:creator>SHG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 03:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mona:

I think I love you, haha.

Thanks for making the point nobody seems to get.</description>
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<p>I think I love you, haha.</p>
<p>Thanks for making the point nobody seems to get.</p>
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		<title>By: Mona</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 22:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think people should stop thinking of this in the whole &quot;Fans supporting their idols&quot; sense and more of a customer relations sense, to fully understand cass. 

Its more of a matter of dignity, outrage and pride, &lt;i&gt;as well&lt;/i&gt; as supporting their idols. If you were starving and someone came over and handed you a plate of food and spit on it while you were on your knees, would you take it? That&#039;s what SM basically do. Whether it be, half assed promotions (DBSKs comeback after 2 years of &quot;starvation&quot; was what? 3 months), version A B C D E F G of the same album with just a few songs added or promoting a single in another country while they were supposed to be focusing on Korea. That&#039;s them virtually spitting in their food.

How much money do you think Cass shell out with all the ridiculous amount of merchandise SM sell? A hell of a lot. How much do you think SM get? A hell of a lot. 

I think people commenting saying they&#039;re &quot;Batshit&quot; and being &quot;selfish&quot; and that they have to get off their &quot;high horses&quot; are being seriously un-fair, close-minded and not even attempting to think of it in their shoes. 

Why the hell should they feed the company that&#039;s draining their boys and having it not benefit them and their boys in the end.

ALSO, try and start thinking of them as not just fans, but as consumers. The customer is always right. Keep the customer happy and you will reap rewards. Don&#039;t bite the hand that feeds you.

This is the only way they CAN protest. And true dat, it worked last time, why the hell can&#039;t it work this time. Are you gonna say it was ridiculous then?

@What? and whoever else is claiming these figures. Show us the accounts and I&#039;ll believe you. SM are known to be shady and have the history of mis-treatment... What track record do DBSK have? Dude, I didn&#039;t know so many people believe the utter shit that SM come out with without any proof given their reputation. 

People need to stop being so gullible. If SM were so innocent, why the hell are they pointing the finger at everybody else trying to make out like they&#039;re the victims. Why would they separate the boys not involved in the business (Yunho and Min suddenly had a need to act, oh and shockingly enough their co-stars are SM ACTRESSES! And Mins is FUNDED by SM! HOMG! what a coincidence)?. Why would they make such a big deal out of the cosmetics company JaeChunSu invested in? Why would they claim figures and then not even have anything to show for it? Why would they mention the expensive gifts they apparently got them (Though the cars they got them are underneath SMs name) when the issue at hand is how much they are getting paid?

Thou protesteth too much, Or more suitably, Thou blag too much. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think people should stop thinking of this in the whole &#8220;Fans supporting their idols&#8221; sense and more of a customer relations sense, to fully understand cass. </p>
<p>Its more of a matter of dignity, outrage and pride, <i>as well</i> as supporting their idols. If you were starving and someone came over and handed you a plate of food and spit on it while you were on your knees, would you take it? That&#8217;s what SM basically do. Whether it be, half assed promotions (DBSKs comeback after 2 years of &#8220;starvation&#8221; was what? 3 months), version A B C D E F G of the same album with just a few songs added or promoting a single in another country while they were supposed to be focusing on Korea. That&#8217;s them virtually spitting in their food.</p>
<p>How much money do you think Cass shell out with all the ridiculous amount of merchandise SM sell? A hell of a lot. How much do you think SM get? A hell of a lot. </p>
<p>I think people commenting saying they&#8217;re &#8220;Batshit&#8221; and being &#8220;selfish&#8221; and that they have to get off their &#8220;high horses&#8221; are being seriously un-fair, close-minded and not even attempting to think of it in their shoes. </p>
<p>Why the hell should they feed the company that&#8217;s draining their boys and having it not benefit them and their boys in the end.</p>
<p>ALSO, try and start thinking of them as not just fans, but as consumers. The customer is always right. Keep the customer happy and you will reap rewards. Don&#8217;t bite the hand that feeds you.</p>
<p>This is the only way they CAN protest. And true dat, it worked last time, why the hell can&#8217;t it work this time. Are you gonna say it was ridiculous then?</p>
<p>@What? and whoever else is claiming these figures. Show us the accounts and I&#8217;ll believe you. SM are known to be shady and have the history of mis-treatment&#8230; What track record do DBSK have? Dude, I didn&#8217;t know so many people believe the utter shit that SM come out with without any proof given their reputation. </p>
<p>People need to stop being so gullible. If SM were so innocent, why the hell are they pointing the finger at everybody else trying to make out like they&#8217;re the victims. Why would they separate the boys not involved in the business (Yunho and Min suddenly had a need to act, oh and shockingly enough their co-stars are SM ACTRESSES! And Mins is FUNDED by SM! HOMG! what a coincidence)?. Why would they make such a big deal out of the cosmetics company JaeChunSu invested in? Why would they claim figures and then not even have anything to show for it? Why would they mention the expensive gifts they apparently got them (Though the cars they got them are underneath SMs name) when the issue at hand is how much they are getting paid?</p>
<p>Thou protesteth too much, Or more suitably, Thou blag too much.</p>
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		<title>By: @Jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>@Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The boycott isn&#039;t only for TVXQ. Fans want to boycott SM&#039;s general unfair practices to their employees as well as the consumers. What&#039;s wrong with that? SM can try to keep fangirls in check by doing whatever they want to TVXQ, but it will never work out in their favour. Otherwiwse, don&#039;t you think they would have already done something about this? SM isn&#039;t a stupid company--they know who&#039;s bringing the money in (TVXQ) and where it&#039;s coming from (fans). They&#039;re going to want to keep all those people happy if they want to stay alfoat in the industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The boycott isn&#8217;t only for TVXQ. Fans want to boycott SM&#8217;s general unfair practices to their employees as well as the consumers. What&#8217;s wrong with that? SM can try to keep fangirls in check by doing whatever they want to TVXQ, but it will never work out in their favour. Otherwiwse, don&#8217;t you think they would have already done something about this? SM isn&#8217;t a stupid company&#8211;they know who&#8217;s bringing the money in (TVXQ) and where it&#8217;s coming from (fans). They&#8217;re going to want to keep all those people happy if they want to stay alfoat in the industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 11:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol. Doesn&#039;t DBSK profit from the merchandise as well? This will only hurt DBSK more since their activities in Korea are frozen. They need to earn this money to pay for their lawyers. DBSK have 800k fans and yet their album doesn&#039;t sell as much. If the fans are that concern why not just each of them donate money to get DBSK out of the contract. Since they can pay that amount of money to join and also buy expensive gift to their idols. 

Sm is now starting to have Shinee replace (we&#039;ve seen how it works before, H.O.T to Shinwa to DBSK = replace) them and I don&#039;t blame him. Heck if I were SM i&#039;ll make sure I&#039;ll put the fan girls on check and tell them who the boss is (call me petty).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol. Doesn&#8217;t DBSK profit from the merchandise as well? This will only hurt DBSK more since their activities in Korea are frozen. They need to earn this money to pay for their lawyers. DBSK have 800k fans and yet their album doesn&#8217;t sell as much. If the fans are that concern why not just each of them donate money to get DBSK out of the contract. Since they can pay that amount of money to join and also buy expensive gift to their idols. </p>
<p>Sm is now starting to have Shinee replace (we&#8217;ve seen how it works before, H.O.T to Shinwa to DBSK = replace) them and I don&#8217;t blame him. Heck if I were SM i&#8217;ll make sure I&#8217;ll put the fan girls on check and tell them who the boss is (call me petty).</p>
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		<title>By: What?</title>
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		<dc:creator>What?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 00:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is completely false?  The crazy fangirls are trying to make up some facts to get people on their cause?  DBSK has gotten 2 million dollars each for their album sales alone, and that&#039;s excluding promotions and stuff.  Who would be stupid enough to follow this pack of lies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is completely false?  The crazy fangirls are trying to make up some facts to get people on their cause?  DBSK has gotten 2 million dollars each for their album sales alone, and that&#8217;s excluding promotions and stuff.  Who would be stupid enough to follow this pack of lies?</p>
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		<title>By: SHG</title>
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		<dc:creator>SHG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 08:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mira: You would put your idols above yourself? People who probably don&#039;t care you exist? That&#039;s sad, and makes you the mindless slave SM has created you to be. I love TVXQ, but I&#039;m not going to let SM walk all over me because of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mira: You would put your idols above yourself? People who probably don&#8217;t care you exist? That&#8217;s sad, and makes you the mindless slave SM has created you to be. I love TVXQ, but I&#8217;m not going to let SM walk all over me because of it.</p>
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